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Liars flipping out because nobody believes them

Update on my bizarre situation:

I'm starting to learn a little about the specifics of some of the things that were done to me for twenty years, behind my back, by a psycho neo-Nazi group which also includes a mentally ill ex-wife and her neo-Nazi family, neo-Nazi allies and secret neo-Nazi allies.

First, unbeknownst to me, the psycho ex-wife and her family belonged to a somewhat secret neo-Nazi group that included former assistant district attorney for Multnomah County, Oregon, Roger Weidner and retired Sheriff of Washington County, Oregon, Jim Spinden.

Then, while I'm away in the military from 1980 to 1984 my assets and my son disappear and I find out later that my relatives became brainwashed by the cult and that they joined the cult. Then I found out that my relatives have done what the leaders of the cult have told them to do for years and that they have played the victim card and are claiming to be victims of every Paranoid Conspiracy on the planet AND, much to my chagrin, I have found out that my mother and sister have become victims of Mexicans, Jews, Blacks, me and a whole bunch of other people. They have become convinced of these delusions because my relatives have been brainwashed into believing the following lunacy by the cult:

Christian Identity beliefs
St. Louis Post-Dispatch/March 5, 2000
And Joe Holleman

• White Anglo-Saxons, the supreme race, are God's chosen people because they were created by God and are the descendants of the lost "12 Tribes of Israel."
• Jews of today are false Jews and not the chosen people; instead they are the offspring of Satan as a result of Eve mating with the Serpent in the Garden of Eden. Some preachers say Jews "must be killed."
• God will send another savior to restore the state of Israel to the rightful people; all others will be condemned.
• Nonwhites are soulless "mud people."
• Isolationism and segregation are required; socializing with Jews or people of other races is condemned.
• Interracial marriage, or mating with a non-white, is a sin.
• In some parishes, pastors call for the death penalty for homosexuals.
• Other religions gloss over the true meaning of the Bible, therefore assisting in the erosion of society's morals.
• The mass media, controlled by the Jews, further erode our society's moral standards.

Of course, they have to throw in a healthy dose of being victimized by domestic violence, non-existent beatings and gunplay with bullets all over the place and the usual delusional false accusations that everybody but the cult is engaging in Homosexual Satanic Ritual Abuse, pedophilia and mass killings of animals and small children.

Since that idiot, Jim Spinden, believed all this crap because he was a secret member of the cult for about twenty years, he spent a good deal of time trying to either manufacture evidence or find evidence to frame me because of his belief that I was evil, Jewish, and Satanic beyond belief.

I'm not Jewish so the cult's belief that I'm a part of the Illuminati and an elder in the The Protocols of the Elders of Zion is ridiculous. Even my relatives, especially my mother and sister, became so brainwashed by the cult that they became convinced that I was really Jewish and that I was adopted and that I had to be killed because I was so evil.

Recently I've found out that the cult and my relatives convinced some Navy JAG officers that I was AWOL from the Navy and some Navy JAG officers became so hot and bothered about this that they actually rented an apartment not far from where I live and hung out there while they investigated me. The Navy JAG officers, who didn't bother to find out that the people who were making ridiculous accusations against me were under investigation by the Alchohol, Tobacco and Firearms (ATF) and the FBI and the Clackamas County, OR County Sheriff's Office for all sorts of felonies. Many of the members of the cult were later busted and convicted of various federal crimes as the following news reports indicate:

[1] Assistant Attorney General Eileen J. O'Connor and United States Attorney Michael W. Mosman announced today that a federal jury in Portland, Oregon, convicted six defendants, Richard George Flowers, Dorothy Lenore Flowers, Jeffrey Allen Weakley, John David Anderson, Ronald William Stacey, and Dan Romaine Kirkham, of conspiracy to defraud the Internal Revenue Service (IRS). All defendants were associated with the Christian Patriot Association, a warehouse bank located in Boring, Oregon, which provided anonymous banking for 900 members nationwide. According to proof at trial. this warehouse bank was operated for the purpose of impeding and impairing the Internal Revenue Service and bad deposits totaling $186 million during the 14-year span of the conspiracy. The jury also found Richard George Flowers guilty of failure to file federal income tax returns for 1995 and 1996 and found Anderson, Ronald and Elecia Stacey, and Dan Romaine Kirkham guilty of tax evasion.

[2] The indictment alleged a conspiracy that involved a nationwide web of financial transactions from March 1986 until July 2000. The scheme was designed to enable members to conduct banking transactions anonymously by using numbered accounts that were come singled in a single comercial bank account.

Looks like a couple of the members of the cult got popped and convicted for a violent bank robbery in order to further the super duper, master race Aryan folks' war against all of us inferior races as the following excerpt indicates.

UPDATE ON FRITZ SPRINGMEIER

John S. Torell
September 15, 2003

On October 8, 1997 the Damascus branch of Key Bank of Oregon was robbed. The robbers fled with $6,000.00 in cash. One of the robbers, later identified as Forrest E. Bateman Jr., used a gun in the robbery, when he fired one shot into the ceiling of the bank to warn the bank clerks that he was willing to use the gun if they did not comply with his demands. Bateman was dressed in army battle fatigues. Ten minutes prior to the robbery, a bomb exploded at the Fantasy Adult Video Store, located six miles west of the bank. No one was injured in the explosion but police investigators believe that the bomb was set off as a diversionary tactic.

Bateman and another man (which I will not identify in order to protect his family, but will give him the fictitious name Roger), had sometime earlier been recruited by Fritz Springmeier 1, and both of them lived on a remote property on and off for eight years which was owned by Roger’s family. Fritz would come often and spend time with the men. According to a family member (which I have spoken to on several occasions), they were preparing for some kind of action against government authorities. Roger, Bateman and Springmeier grew marijuana on the family property (which was not known to the family), and it was sold as a source of income to fund their activities. The family eventually became very afraid of Fritz and forbade him to come back on the property.

Some time after the robbery Roger was arrested and charged with having an illegal shot gun, with a barrel that was not in compliance with the law and also for being part of the marijuana growing. He was promised a lighter sentence if he would testify against Bateman and Springmeier, but the deal was later reneged on by the assistant U.S. Attorney, Frank Noonan. Roger was sentenced to a prison term of 47 months to be served out in federal prison, and was then shipped off to a federal prison in California.

In January 2002 Bateman and Springmeier were indicted by a grand jury on charges of armed bank robbery, the use of a firearm in a violent crime and possession of a destructive device in a violent crime; but they did not go to trial until January 2003.

At this time Roger was brought back to Oregon from the federal prison in California and held in a local county jail. According to family members of Roger, he was very scared and feared for his life and wanted to be returned as soon as possible to the federal prison in California where he felt safer.

Bateman was facing up to 20 years in federal prison when he accepted a plea bargain on January 27, 2003 in the U.S. District Court in Portland, Oregon and plead guilty to the charge of bank robbery. When Batemen was sentenced on April 3, 2003, he was sentenced to 10 to 12 years.

On February 12, 2003 Springmeier was convicted in a jury trial on two counts, while a third was thrown out. Count one charged defendant with armed bank robbery and count two charged defendant with using and carrying a firearm during the armed robbery. Count three which charged defendant with using and carrying a destructive device during a bank robbery, did not go to the jury because the court ruled that the evidence did not support that charge.

To repeat myself, the idiots in the Navy JAG office didn't know that the people making these crazy accusations against me, including my relatives, were being investigated by authorities who had already heard these idiotic accusations against me and realized that the false accusations were from delusional and exceedingly crazy people. The NAVY JAG officers actually brought in some agents from the Naval Criminal Investigative Service (NCIS) to investigate me for various crimes that the cult had accused me of committing.

At the moment I have been informed, maybe correctly, that the NCIS agents and the Navy JAG officers have vacated the apartment right down the road.

In the meantime, my relatives are furious that nobody believes any of their conspiracy theories, the false accusations against me, and any other lies that they've told to tons of people.

Also, in the meantime, idiots from the cult are still communicating with me in their own bizarre, pushy manner in order to make me feel guilty about divorcing the the extremely white, extremely superior, extremely Aryan, extremely perfect repository of perfect genes, ex-wife. At times they inform me I must be destroyed for abandoning such a perfect example of purebred, white Christian womanhood.

The cult is also extremely upset because I deigned to attempt to have a family with a female member of "an inferior race".

All in all, this situation sucks. And what really pisses me off is that these idiots have convinced my two daughters that I'm evil and a Homosexual Satanic Abuse ritualist who wants to hurt them, who doesn't love them, and who kills all the little kids and pets in the neighborhood while being evilly Jewish.

My mother, Neta Hays, and my sister, Chris Andrea Hays, are throwing more and more temper tantrums because more and more people think they are mendacious to the max.

On a related note - I have found out that when females become convinced that they are members of the super duper, master Aryan race, they tend to start taking mass quantities of tranquilizers, anti-depressants, and pain pills, in addition to drinking more and more in order to keep from being bombarded by the various paranoid conspiracies they believe in. I'm beginning to think one of the reasons a couple of my relatives behave so outrageously is that they are walking pharmaceutical experiments.

So......let's see.....John McClelland Hays, Neta Hays, Chris Andrea Hays, Alex Hoover and some of my other relatives became mentally ill from joining a cult; then made false and delusional accusations against people, including me; searched far a wide for somebody in law enforcementwho was stupid enough to believe their ridiculous accusations (idiot Jim Spinden); became snitches in order to coerce confessions or manufacture evidence to support the ridiculous accusations; felt silly afterwards and crawled into their version of a spider hole. And......at the moment......that's where they reside in a desperate attempt not to face the real world.

Posted by John at January 7, 2004 07:14 PM