Taxpayers for Common Sense has a story pointing out the following:
With the middle class paying an increasingly larger part of the federal tax bill, aren't you wondering who's skipping out on their share of the tab? Corporate income tax revenues have hit a record low and we're wondering why Congress is writing new legislation that would reduce them even more.
Even though I'm a registered voter in Washington County, Oregon and the PUD in question is in Multnomah County, I have spoken out in favor of it. Some PUD's become controlled by the industry the PUD is supposed to control, so you gotta keep an eye on PUD's. Below is an update on what's going on.
The looney, homophobic, racist cop in the pig family's cult that has been stalking me for over twenty years likes to put secret listening devices in my two daughters' backpacks, order my two daughters' to act in a bizarre manner and then send my two daughters over. This is the same cop who:
The list could go on. There is no crime this cop would not do to get me for
1. divorcing the psycho ex-wife.
2. committing all sorts of delusional, supernatural crimes
This crazy cop has a serious unprofessional obsession about me and it's hurting my two daughters. It's also hurting the mother of my two daughters.
I think my crazy ex-wife killed somebody and she and members of the cult are trying to pin the crime on me. I think she might have killed some woman she and the cult thought I was going out with because shortly after I went out with the ex-wife, she started harassing women she thought I was going out with. The ex-wife even assaulted a couple. The following excerpt from William A. Eddy, LCSW, Esq. - How Personality Disorders Drive Family Court Litigation describes one of the sleazy tactics this cult uses:
Lying may be justified in their eyes -- possibly to bring a reconciliation. (This can be quite convoluted, like the former wife who alleged child sexual abuse so that her ex-husband's new wife would divorce him and he would return to her -- or so she seemed to believe.) Or lying may be justified as a punishment in their eyes.
It's amazing what a crooked cop can get people to do when the crooked cop tells people he's conducting some sort of very important investigation about an evil crime committed by an evil criminal. You wouldn't believe how bizarre this crooked cop got my relatives to behave.
On a seemingly unrelated note, "Who is Lynn?"
Yahoo! News - U.S. Prescription Drug System Under Attack
I would think the plethora of counterfeit prescription drugs ripping of American consumers would be a little more important to the U.S. Department of Justice than harassing people and states about medical marijuana.
Now for a new subject:
I've had a crazy ex-father-in-law and others stalking me for over twenty years trying to destroy me in conjunction with various schemes to get me to remarry a psychopathic, violent, ugly ex-wife. Could there be a connection between counterfeit drugs and the craziness of my ex-wife and her family?
TalkLeft: Court Orders Father to Speak to Daughter in English is another example of silliness in a courtroom. The judge eventually said, "Debo recuse mi asno estúpido de esto".
I, myself, only speak Klingon and LA slang around my kids. I think LA slang should become the universal language as long as it's properly translated into Chinese.
I like forums because I can express my opinions for a few seconds before I get sued.
Instapundit brings up some interesting points about Gregg Easterbrook's recent blogging about rotten movies and Jews.
Roger L. Simon recently had a conversation with Gregg Easterbrook and points out that an employer of Easterbrook might have overeacted to Easterbrook's anti-capitalist, anti-Semite rant about a movie Easterbrook didn't like. Easterbrook then apologized but the employer ushered him out the door anyway.
I think the apology is just as silly as the original ranting. The following is an excerpt:
Every reporter who has called me today has asked me my faith. Since I say this is relevant for others, it's relevant for me. I'm a Christian. I worship in one of the handful of joint Christian-Jewish congregations in the United States. This website describes the Bradley Hills Presbyterian (USA) side of the church. This website describes Bethesda Jewish, a Klal Yisrael ("All Israel") congregation that shares the same worship spaces and finances. Two years ago I wrote in The New Republic of the Bradley Hills-Bethesda Jewish joint congregation, "One of the shortcomings of Christianity is that most adherents downplay the faith's interweaving with Judaism." I and my family sought out a place where Christians and Jews express their faith cooperatively, which seems to me a good idea.
Well, he's got me convinced to become a Presbyterian so I can hang out with Jews.
I'm so upset about the Cubs losing I don't think I can read the whole post by USS Clueless. Maybe you should.
USS Clueless - FeasibilitySports has always had its colorful characters, but I'm hard pressed to think of a sport which has had as many as Baseball. Surely any sport which boasts Casey Stengel and Yogi Berra can retire the trophy based on them alone.
It's amazing to me what some people believe. I always thought the political system put Bush in the White House.
TalkLeft: Conyers Asks Rumsfeld to Reassign Lt. Gen. BoykinLt. Gen. Boykin's remarks over the past few years, including remarks that Islamic extremists hate the United States because "we're a Christian nation," that "our spiritual enemy will only be defeated if we come against them in the name of Jesus," that President Bush "is in the White House because God put him there," and that Boykin's "god was a real god and [the Muslim god] was an idol."
Sounds like good advice to me.
Instapundit.com: - THINGS TO AVOID, if you're looking for a job as a law professor, Part I:Sending your resume as an attached file, but one that's infected with a virus that infects the Appointments Committee Chair's computer.
There's gotta be some way to save the Dying Tongues.
DYNAMIC MARKET THEORY by J. Christoph Amberger
Something has changed in the stock market. That
'something,' of course, is the dollar amount of Federal
Reserve repurchase agreements, which has dropped
considerably.There is a strong correlation between repurchase activity
and the current rally in stocks: In the second week of
August, the Fed's repurchase activity totaled US$48
billion. A week later, the total is was 'only' US$35.25
billion. (Which means that for a mere US$83 billion, you,
too, can create a 100-point rally in the Nasdaq.)The question is: How long will this go on? How long will
the Fed continue to feed the stock market's addiction to
liquidity? I think the answer is simple - 2,000 and
10,000... as in Nasdaq 2000 and Dow 10,000. Those are big,
round numbers that will scream, "the economy is OK!" to the
American people.But is it OK? Or is this rally based on a false idea of
value?The traditional measures of value for investors all have to
do with the actual or potential earnings of a company. What
is it producing? What are its costs of production? What is
its position in the marketplace? What is its competition?
What is its future potential for earnings?Oddly enough, few investors these days seem to care about
value any more. They didn't back in 1999 (when all they
wanted was an Internet-related business plan scribbled on a
cocktail napkin). And unless they're seeing sales and
earnings increases in U.S. companies where we can't find
them, they still don't care now. But maybe you don't have
to care about value to make money. In fact, based on
Taipan's research into Dynamic Market Theory, the
traditional views on value are all wrong. I'll get to
Dynamic Market Theory in just a minute, but first, let me
explain our view of value.We believe most market theories all deal with the
'intrinsic' value of stocks or other commodities. In other
words, the notion that the value comes from within the
thing. That it has value by and in itself, regardless of
any associations with other things.But we believe that, for investors, the only value of any
importance is the value that someone else places on a stock
or investment at any given point in time. Following this
idea, there is really no such thing as a 'bubble.' If the
price of a commodity like real estate, tulip bulbs or
Internet stocks rises to hyper-value based on demand... then
that is its true value at that moment in time.You see, a 'bubble' is an argument about value - mostly
made in retrospect, after a particular investment fad has
gone bust. Investment fads that don't go bust, conversely,
are called 'strokes of genius,' even if the underlying
speculative analysis and risks are the same for both.For example, at the market peak in early 2000, it was said
that the stock market had a valuation of US$17 trillion
dollars. That amount had dipped to US$8.5 trillion by
October 2000. Right now, the valuation of the stock market
is about US$10 trillion. But all these figures are
assignments of value based only on what a small percentage
of shares is trading for.Only a tiny fraction of a given company's shares are in
trade at a given time. Take Microsoft, for example. There
are almost 11 billion shares of Microsoft outstanding, but
on any one day, only 25 or 30 million might change hands.
If you dumped all 11 billion shares on the market at one
time, the price would plummet because of the monstrous
excess in supply - no matter what was going on at the
company or in the stock market. So the 'valuation' commonly
given to any or all stocks is arbitrary, not real, even if
it is based on the latest sale of a few shares of the
stock.Those subscribing to a bearish view of the market like to
say that around US$8.5 trillion dollars of equity valuation
was 'destroyed' in the bear market from early 2000 to
October of that year. But since valuations are assigned
arbitrarily anyway, they can't be destroyed. They change
up, they change down. But they never go away. And that
US$8.5 trillion wasn't 'created,' but was generated by the
reallocation of savings and spending money put into stocks,
which pushed share prices up overall, causing the higher
'valuation.'And here's another interesting little fact: In 1982, at the
beginning of the last 'bull market,' there were only about
1,500 companies listed on the New York Stock Exchange, with
roughly 40 billion shares. The market valuation was around
US$1.3 trillion.But by the year 2000 and the end of the bull market, there
were over 3,000 companies listed on the New York Stock
Exchange... with over 349 billion shares available. Granted,
some of these were start-ups, but it's obvious that a lot
of the 'wealth' that was 'created' actually came from
existing private companies going public, taking advantage
of a rising market and putting shares of their company up
for sale to the general public.These companies were already in existence, with dynamic
value. It's just that their value was now counted as part
of the stock market. So in these cases, wealth wasn't
created - it merely changed hands, from a few private
owners to millions of stock investors. Realistically, since
stock market valuations came down, the amount of money
invested in stocks also came down. Much of that money was
simply reallocated to other assets... like real estate,
bonds, gold, and other commodities.Stocks are valuable to investors because their prices
change, both up and down. If they didn't change, why would
investors want them? It would be easier to hold cash - it's
more liquid, and there are no transaction fees.Now, anyone with a computer can see - in an instant - that
a stock's price has moved from US$20 to US$25. And anyone
with any imagination can see that they could have made a
quarter for every dollar they put down. That's how it
begins. And that's usually about the time average investors
make their first mistake.Because, as soon as you start looking for a particular
stock whose price could rise, you introduce the idea of
valuation - that a stock's price is somehow linked to the
prospects of the company. But this is true only in the most
general understanding of valuation.If you watch stocks trade on options expiration days,
you'll realize that 'valuation' takes a back seat to the
infinitely more powerful forces of money flow. The only
question is, who's going to be left holding the bag? Watch
a stodgy old NYSE stock as options expiration day (the
third Friday of every month) approaches. Pay particular
attention to the open interest on puts and calls in the
vicinity of the current stock price. Like clockwork, the
greatest number of people who can be squeezed out of their
money at expiration, will be. Whether that means selling
down a 'good' stock or pumping up a 'bad' one!Want to know where the S&P 500 and Nasdaq are headed? You
could listen to bulls or bears or stock analysts. You could
track unemployment, follow earnings trends, and pay close
attention to market gurus and the financial media. But if
you really want to know, you should check the "Commitment
of Traders" report released every Friday by the Commodity
Futures Trading Commission. This report is more valuable
than all the economic or technical analysis known to man.Because this report will tell you what the big money, the
money that literally moves the market, is doing. And this
is where you'll get your first clue about what's really
behind value... and why we prefer to use the realities of
Dynamic Market Theory.You see, 99 times out of 100, you'll find that the big
money is doing the exact opposite of what 'the herd' is
doing. The investors looking for steady growth, low P/E
stocks in which to park their US$100,000 IRA have no idea
what they're up against. The big money, the guys with
billions upon billions in buying and selling power, WILL
have their way. And if that means dropping a low P/E stock
even lower, then so be it.For example: eBay currently trades at 22 times sales, has a
P/E above 100 and a 50% premium to its growth rate. It is
richly valued, to say the least. Eight million shares are
sold short. And the open interest on options is about 2-to-
1 in favor of the puts (investors betting the stock will go
down). A lot of people are betting the stock is
overvalued... and expecting it to fall.It's not that they're wrong. It's that they're asking the
wrong question.The single-most important question you need to ask is not
whether it's overvalued, but... who's going to make money?
When you know the answer to that question, you can make a
fortune. That's how the richest people in the world make
their money.Here's what I mean: The top three institutional owners of
eBay have about US$3.5 billion in the stock. Add in the
next three institutional owners, and you're talking about
US$6 billion. So, will the investors who have approximately
US$800 million in shorted stock ever turn a profit?Not likely. The big boys, that is, the top institutional
owners, will keep the price up until the shorts call it
quits. Or they'll run the price up and 'squeeze' the shorts
- handing them bigger and bigger losses - until they give
in. And the situation is even worse for the vast number of
put options holders.So, sometimes it pays to poke your head up out of quarterly
reports and valuation models and see what's around you. If
you find yourself surrounded by a bunch of people who, like
you, think they're about to make money... well, you're
probably wrong.The stock market is a game, pure and simple. And there's
only one rule: money always wins.In other words, a lot of that money that 'disappeared' from
stocks (equity funds) simply moved into bond and money
market funds. The money didn't 'disappear' - it moved. Add
to that the moves into gold and real estate, and you begin
to see that - allowing for fluctuations in the 'value' that
we love to give to the market - money tends to move around
more than it 'appears' and 'disappears.'Point is, all that money didn't just 'vaporize,' as the
perennial bears like to claim. A lot of it simply moved.
Now money is flowing back into stocks again. But beware -
the market is set to fool investors and separate them from
their money yet again.But if you follow Dynamic Market Theory, you're much better
positioned to profit... no matter what happens in the stock
market. It's a new and different way of investing that
takes into account volatile market conditions and the many
factors stacked against the individual investor.Many stocks exhibit certain predictable behaviors before
they make a large move... that is, before the money moves
into or out of them. Over time, this behavior - shown by
any number of indicators - gets recognized, and everyone
begins to look for those indicators and act on them. Then
the significant factors evolve into something else.To turn this action into profits, you need a set of
individual ways of looking at the dynamic market action of
stocks (in other words, price action) to arrive at
decisions about how to invest. With these individual
systems of looking at dynamic action, you can predict
developments in stocks... in any market... by looking at the
different indicators.What's become obvious is that static theories or
traditional views of the markets can't and won't work in
the long run. Because there is no one set of principles -
like value investing - that will always work. Since the
market is dynamic and ever-changing, following one
investing principle dooms you to failure.It may work for a short period of time, but once the market
factors change, then so must your investing philosophy.
This is one government agency that takes its work seriously. Remember folks, your taxes are paying for some really important email escapades.
From: Morgan Massey morgan.massey@csosa.gov
To: Leslie Combs leslie.combs@csosa.gov, Sheryl Wallace
sheryl.wallace@csosa.gov, Regina Scruggs regina.scruggs@csosa.gov,
Catherine Terry-Crusor catherine.terry-crusor@csosa.gov, 'D'Karla Leach'
dkarla5@aol.com,, 'Paula Dee Marshall' pauladee@earthlink.net, 'Sandi Midgette' midgette_s@bls.gov,
Monica Montgomery monica.montgomery@csosa.gov, Angelia Robinson
angelia.robinson@CSOSA.gov, LaJuane Drakeford-Archible
lajuane.drakeford@csosa.gov, Alfreda Jackson alfreda.jackson@csosa.gov
Subject: FW: MARRIAGE CARTOONS
Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 12:29:54 -0400
-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Ann Wood
Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 12:46 PM
To: Lori Huff-Herald; Karen Ferguson; 'KNVallejos@aol.com';
'hjf@american.edu'; Patrice Richardson; Erika Evans; Morgan Massey;
Jermaine
Cooper; Leslie Combs
Subject: FW: MARRIAGE CARTOONS
-----Original Message-----
From: Sam Tarr [mailto:sam.tarr@verizon.net]
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 4:01 PM
To: Steve; Bob; Al; Ed & Marlene; Moon; Sparky; Burt
Subject: MARRIAGE CARTOONS
MWP: Tennessee Williams (1911-1983) and Death of Salesman by Arthur Miller and Waiting for Godot -- Act 1 all have something in common.
What is it?
We're not going to pay any attention to pig boy's opinion that they're all homosexual Satanists like Judge Michael McElligott.
They all wrote stuff that caused other people to have to memorize lines. In my younger days I actually was able to play parts of some of the leading, very strange characters in at least one play by these guys. The community theater audiences didn't throw beer cans at me. Then again, nobody goes to community theater productions anyway and maybe that's why nobody threw beer cans at me like they did a couple of times when I was in a band.
In "Waiting for Godot" I memorized a bunch of lines. I didn't try to figure out the meaning of the play or the reason for the character. I just memorized the lines and said them while moving about. It was easier than doing improv comedy.
Many people have made money analyzing the plays and the writings of Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, and Samuel Beckett and you wouldn't believe some of the nonsense that has been written about them. My advice is to ignore the analyzations and some of the other nonsense that has been written about them and just read what Tennessee Williams, Arthur Miller, and Samuel Beckett wrote. Of course, keep in mind some of what they wrote was just plain crap.
I have twice been offered info and photos that, if published, could have led to the death of someone. I took the coward's way out and didn't publish the info or the pictures.
I figure I have enough people hating me and there's no need to accidently get someone killed. Besides, I'm not a journalist even though some professional journalists have been kind enough to help me out from time to time.
This is just a blog, right? It isn't serious journalism, right? Not publishing certain info or photos because somebody might get injured or killed is ok, right?
Some of my email sources (who for obvious reasons like to remain anonymous) have sent me some updates. Shirin Ebadi is back in Iran and pissing the mullahs off. The mullahs, among others, spy on this site and try to do weird things with email. This tells you that they are afraid of those who like liberty and freedom and that they have a lot of time on their hands.
It's that time of the year for journalists and historians to sue for your right to know. So check out this and INFOPRIVACYLAW.COM and LLRX.com - Legal and Technology Articles and Resources for Librarians, Lawyers and Law Firms
Today we're highlighting the Antitrust Division of the U. S. Department of Justice.
I know it's more fun to watch the baseball players fight each other, but let's check out this where we learn the following:
The Government has presented sufficient evidence for a reasonable jury to find, beyond a reasonable doubt, that Defendant aided and abetted a conspiracy to fix prices among graphite electrode producers. The existence of the conspiracy has been proved beyond any doubt.The Government must also show that the Defendant had knowledge of the crime. Over ten Mitsubishi executives and sales people were identified as having knowledge of the conspiracy.
While the defense may argue that such knowledge was only “rumor,” the record is more than sufficient for the jury to disregard such characterization. In any event, Ichiro Fukushima, the individual Mitsubishi assigned to oversee UCAR’s operation as Mitsubishi’s UCAR Team Project Leader, actually attended price-fixing meetings. This alone is sufficient to attribute knowledge and participation to Mitsubishi, his employer.
Lynn drives around in an old red van while he's pretending to be a paint contractor. He gets secretly drunk on Irish whiskey, assaults immigrants and says stupid things like, "She doesn't have AIDS. Go ahead and make it with her. I did."
When sombody tells me something that stupid I immediately become suspicious about ulterior motives and I'm not going to do anything that particular person suggests. Would you?
He's one of my suspects in the murder of Lorenzo Okaruru, a.k.a., Loni Kai.
The murder of Lorenzo has all the marks of an attack by the morons in the Voodoo Christianity Cult, down to and including the vehicles used and the ability to communicate with each other in order to clean up a lot of the evidence of the murder.
I just heard the phrase, "Let's kill all the white people". Hmmm.....I thought that the nazis and the imperial japanese tried that in the last century. Maybe they weren't successful. I'll probably have to ask somebody in South Korea and the Chinese that have managed to escape communism.
As a person with a lot of Gypsy and Irish blood in him my ancestors were not really interested in killing all the white people, but if it happened, they probably wouldn't care much because it would probably divert the attention of all those people trying to kill my ancestors.
You know, black racists and white racists and japanese racists have a lot in common. I'm not really sure what they have in common, but as long as they keep trying to kill each other maybe they'll leave me alone so I can watch really important stuff like the Cubs game.
We have a winner. The ugly old white supremacist hag of the week is Kim Katsion. Hard to believe anybody in their right mind would elect this pro-nazi "pig" commissioner. I got the word "pig" from people who says she uses it to describe all her enemies. Apparently, she has a lot of enemies.....like all the people who believe she's basically a spoiled child who, when she doesn't get her way, throws temper tantrums. Apparently, anybody who doesn't tolerate her temper tantrums is a "pig".
Kim is definitely not like a person I admire who has a post called TalkLeft: Criticism Mounting Over Execution Drug
She sounds believable to me. I say we find the sleazy, pro-nazi, white supremacist crooked cop here in Washington County to help her out.
I Beg You In With all sincerity and humility. I am Jewel Taylor,the wife of the deposed President of Liberia, Fomer African colony of the United states Of America.
I write you this proposal based on the fact that i need your aid torelocate to a safe haven my husbands personal funds and effects namely
2kg weight of Diamond stones and 14 gold bars with $2.4 Million
USD,all deposited in a safety deposit box in a financial institution
which will be later disclosed to you upon your offer of acceptance.
The lives of myself and my children are at risk ever since my husbandengaged himself in this rebel of a thing in my country which later saw
him as the president of my country.
We have currently been offered political assylum in the Federal
Republic Of Nigeria by its President,Olusegun Obasanjo,which will
confine us to its shores for the rest of my lives.
I have been guaranted safety by the United states Government and that
of the Nigerian Government by a meeting held with both
Presidents,President George Bush Of the united States and that of the
Nigerian President on the 10th of July 2003 at the just concluded Leon
Sullivan Summit Held In Nigeria..
What you may hear of my husband should you decide to verify may not be
of a good report but he has learnt his lesson the hard way and what i
do now i do for the sake of my two daughters and son whom i pray to
God in order not for them to suffer for the sins of their Father.
I am prepared and willing to consider your price for aiding me in this
matter and will welcome your conditions to the best of my abilities.
I will provide you with a phone line in which i can be reached as it
is not possible for me to make long distance calls from my place of
confinement except i do it a few blocks away if the necessary need
arises.
View this site to see a picture of me:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/2963086.stm
I look forward to your prompt response.
Yours Sincerly,
Jewel Taylor.
I said a prayer. I know I'm not important enough for God to help anybody just because I made a prayer, but you know what, maybe a couple of more people than me prayed, and maybe everything came together to make cool stuff happen.
Then again, maybe not. Am I a cynic or what?
Yahoo! News - Egyptian Twins Successfully Separated in Dallas
Lately we've had a couple of storms here in the Northwest. When I asked why I was told it was because of satellite photos.
I hope those satellite photos start showing sun or we'll have to jump on Dave.
Anyway, I went outside to check out the storm. Man, it was awful. There was rain and wind and leaves and bugs and neighbors telling me the next time I checked out a storm I should wear clothes. Picky....picky....picky.
Dr. Ron Turco has found enough time to quit preening himself and awarding himself all sorts of awards to conduct an investigation. His investigation has uncovered a "not-white-enough person" in Washington County, OR and (Dr. Ron Turco has really been working up a sweat) a .....this is almost too horrible to write about.....a....Lord No!!!???.....a.....non-white person in Washington County. Whatever shall we do?
What we should do is give Dr. Ron Turco what he wants more than anything.......which is......money. His god is Bill Gates but I don't think Dr. Ron Turco's god even knows he exists. Too bad. Dr. Ron Turco is a person you can bribe by merely paying not very much money.
Pavel Goberman is running for office in Oregon.
Willis '04: Endorsements, Polling @ Oliver Willis: Like Kryptonite to Stupid
Personally, don't know why anybody, including cobb, would want to have anything to do with computers........oh wait a minute.......isn't that what the mullahs want me to say.
Did you know that if there weren't any Jews that would be one less reason to send me mindless crap. Then again, if there were no people at all then there would be no reason, probably, to send me any crap. Something tells me, though, that even if there were no people, spammers would still figure out how to send spam to me.
The people at the Aloha Church of Christ are still reading the Bible religiously and are convinced they're extremely white. They're not reading the Bible in order to help their fellow citizens, though. They're reading the Bible in order to find a loophole so they can get their asses into Heaven.
I say, "Screw the asses, find a loophold that helps get You into Heaven".
I mean, come on, the only reason for being born is to get into Heaven. If you don't believe me, just talk to a suicide bomber......silly me.....I meant to say talk to a suicide bomber about a mile away from the suicide bomber.
I experimented with a new anti-spam program and it sent all my email to the junk file folder. Then it automatically deleted the email.
Wired News: Antispam Companies Raking It In
Yesterday we had a Christian come over. He's not much of a Christian. He doesn't do what Christ says to do. But, hey, who does?
I've recently received a nomination for ugly old white supremacist hag of the week. I can't guarantee that the nomination is from some disgruntled person, so I'm asking your help in verifying that this person is really a hatefilled white supremacist like Pamela.
The nomination is for Kim's mother and I won't post the last name. But she drives a red SUV.
Latest update on the murder of Lorenzo Okaruru, a.k.a., Loni Kai. There is none. What we do know is the Roger Weidner/Victor Oekerman gang was involved, just like they were involved in hiring a couple of persons to kill me. If the Beaverton detectives knew how to detect they might detect a couple of guys who came to Beaverton from Tigard for nefarious purposes.